<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Footprints, Imagination, and the Art of Sustainability</title>
	<atom:link href="http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/</link>
	<description>Better Ways to Live, Work, and Change the World</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:27:59 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" />
	<item>
		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-508</guid>
		<description>Jeffrey, This is an interesting and provocative post. I agree with the general thrust of your words and the comments, namely, that whether or not alarming climiate change is occurring, we do need to make changes in our energy use and our consumption and disposal of products, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I don&#039;t agree with the idea that legislation is not part of the answer. When I worked in the environmental area, specifically in hazardous waste management and clean-up of contaminated sites, it was clear that federal legislation in both areas was essential in bringing about responsible disposal of hazardous waste and clean-up of sites where hazardous waste had been dumped in the past. It&#039;s hard to imagine how innovation alone could address a Love Canal-type site or a cluster of childhood leukemia in an area where dumping of hazardous waste decades before had contaminated water supply wells in Woburn, Massachusetts.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In addition, legislation often motivates behavior change by imposing hefty financial penalties. The federal Superfund Act requires owners of contaminated property to clean it up. If they fail to do so, the governemtn can perform the clean-up and go after the property owner for treble damages. That approach tends to get a lot of compliance which benefits all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey, This is an interesting and provocative post. I agree with the general thrust of your words and the comments, namely, that whether or not alarming climiate change is occurring, we do need to make changes in our energy use and our consumption and disposal of products, </p>
<p>However, I don&#39;t agree with the idea that legislation is not part of the answer. When I worked in the environmental area, specifically in hazardous waste management and clean-up of contaminated sites, it was clear that federal legislation in both areas was essential in bringing about responsible disposal of hazardous waste and clean-up of sites where hazardous waste had been dumped in the past. It&#39;s hard to imagine how innovation alone could address a Love Canal-type site or a cluster of childhood leukemia in an area where dumping of hazardous waste decades before had contaminated water supply wells in Woburn, Massachusetts.  </p>
<p>In addition, legislation often motivates behavior change by imposing hefty financial penalties. The federal Superfund Act requires owners of contaminated property to clean it up. If they fail to do so, the governemtn can perform the clean-up and go after the property owner for treble damages. That approach tends to get a lot of compliance which benefits all of us.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin- AlittleBetter.net</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin- AlittleBetter.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-474</guid>
		<description>Glad to share a resource. Here&#039;s a documentary that challenges global warming. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.veoh.com/collection/cerebral/watch/v62952764DmphdPC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.veoh.com/collection/cerebral/watch/v...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;And while I would not challenge the points you&#039;ve brought up here are some points for you to examine. Where is the evidence that humans are the number one source of CO2 on the planet? When was the last ice age? How long does an ice age typically take to warm back up? Does the sun go through heating and cooling cycles naturally? What effect would these things have on the planet?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whether global warming is true or not, how we live is still unsustainable. There are still more advantages to going green than to not. Lets just be careful to not become a force for politics rather than a force for good. Put thought and reason behind your decisions and examine evidence presented by your opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to share a resource. Here&#39;s a documentary that challenges global warming. <a href="http://www.veoh.com/collection/cerebral/watch/v62952764DmphdPC" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.veoh.com/collection/cerebral/watch/v.." rel="nofollow">http://www.veoh.com/collection/cerebral/watch/v..</a>.<br />And while I would not challenge the points you&#39;ve brought up here are some points for you to examine. Where is the evidence that humans are the number one source of CO2 on the planet? When was the last ice age? How long does an ice age typically take to warm back up? Does the sun go through heating and cooling cycles naturally? What effect would these things have on the planet?</p>
<p>Whether global warming is true or not, how we live is still unsustainable. There are still more advantages to going green than to not. Lets just be careful to not become a force for politics rather than a force for good. Put thought and reason behind your decisions and examine evidence presented by your opponents.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin- AlittleBetter.net</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin- AlittleBetter.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-473</guid>
		<description>Depends on the marketing team. How long did it take to make Coca-Cola a household name? Movements work the same as products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on the marketing team. How long did it take to make Coca-Cola a household name? Movements work the same as products.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin- AlittleBetter.net</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin- AlittleBetter.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-472</guid>
		<description>Almost every scientist once believed the world was flat. Majority belief does not constitute proof. Additionally we also just came out of an ice age 4 centuries ago. It takes a long while for the earth to get back up to a regular temperature from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every scientist once believed the world was flat. Majority belief does not constitute proof. Additionally we also just came out of an ice age 4 centuries ago. It takes a long while for the earth to get back up to a regular temperature from that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-467</guid>
		<description>I applaud the cooling of alarm-ism and I do like the suggestions for lifestyle change.   However, I suppose I may suffer from SIWOTI syndrome.  There are so many lines of converging evidence that make it nearly incontrovertible that we are facing negative climate change...if you call the conclusions of climate scientists bullocks - you really haven&#039;t examined the evidence.  The &quot;Every Scientist&quot; comment may be an appeal to authority, but try reading some of the intelligently written articles by climate scientists with loads of evidence and links to other sources and tons of evidence....And if you have any trust in the scientific method and peer review, whatsoever,  you may not think it&#039;s bullocks.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t panic - but please don&#039;t minimize the facts.  If you have any links to credible articles that site real sources and show that Greenland melting is not accelerating or that the oceans are cooling and not warming and that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas after all and that we are not pumping giga-tons of CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, please post it here so I can feel skeptical about climate change again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the cooling of alarm-ism and I do like the suggestions for lifestyle change.   However, I suppose I may suffer from SIWOTI syndrome.  There are so many lines of converging evidence that make it nearly incontrovertible that we are facing negative climate change&#8230;if you call the conclusions of climate scientists bullocks &#8211; you really haven&#39;t examined the evidence.  The &#8220;Every Scientist&#8221; comment may be an appeal to authority, but try reading some of the intelligently written articles by climate scientists with loads of evidence and links to other sources and tons of evidence&#8230;.And if you have any trust in the scientific method and peer review, whatsoever,  you may not think it&#39;s bullocks.  </p>
<p>Don&#39;t panic &#8211; but please don&#39;t minimize the facts.  If you have any links to credible articles that site real sources and show that Greenland melting is not accelerating or that the oceans are cooling and not warming and that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas after all and that we are not pumping giga-tons of CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, please post it here so I can feel skeptical about climate change again.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeffrey Tang</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-466</guid>
		<description>&quot;And many of the changes being suggested to slow down climate change (waste reduction, efficient resource use, cleaner energy) have many positives and just make good sense, even if climate change isn&#039;t happening.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this is HUGE. We spend so much time arguing over this policy and that policy and will it do more harm than good and does climate change even matter ... and we get nowhere. You&#039;re exactly right, Sky - the changes we can and should make (being efficient, cutting waste, developing cleaner technologies) don&#039;t need climate change as a justification. They&#039;re beneficial in and of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And many of the changes being suggested to slow down climate change (waste reduction, efficient resource use, cleaner energy) have many positives and just make good sense, even if climate change isn&#39;t happening.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is HUGE. We spend so much time arguing over this policy and that policy and will it do more harm than good and does climate change even matter &#8230; and we get nowhere. You&#39;re exactly right, Sky &#8211; the changes we can and should make (being efficient, cutting waste, developing cleaner technologies) don&#39;t need climate change as a justification. They&#39;re beneficial in and of themselves.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeffrey Tang</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-465</guid>
		<description>I think that fear really is the most destructive thing in the entire climate change debate. Either global warming is happening, or it&#039;s not. Either the world will change, or it won&#039;t. I&#039;ll let the scientists figure that one out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But fear-based rhetoric on both sides does nothing to move us forward. In that, I completely agree with you, Stormbringer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that fear really is the most destructive thing in the entire climate change debate. Either global warming is happening, or it&#39;s not. Either the world will change, or it won&#39;t. I&#39;ll let the scientists figure that one out.</p>
<p>But fear-based rhetoric on both sides does nothing to move us forward. In that, I completely agree with you, Stormbringer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeffrey Tang</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-464</guid>
		<description>@Matt - Some good suggestions there, and I agree that being more efficient doesn&#039;t have to very hard. I&#039;ve read some of the science behind climate change, but not enough yet to get into a debate about statistics and data, so I&#039;ll refrain from making any hasty comments :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@Illham - Nicely put. It really is a lifestyle change - meaning something you have to commit to over a long period of time. Part of that is changing your mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt &#8211; Some good suggestions there, and I agree that being more efficient doesn&#39;t have to very hard. I&#39;ve read some of the science behind climate change, but not enough yet to get into a debate about statistics and data, so I&#39;ll refrain from making any hasty comments :)</p>
<p>@Illham &#8211; Nicely put. It really is a lifestyle change &#8211; meaning something you have to commit to over a long period of time. Part of that is changing your mindset.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sky</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-463</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m not going to get into the global warming facts because everyone seems so sensitive and hard line about that. But here are some indisputable facts to consider: &lt;br&gt;-we do live on a finite planet, with finite resources, including essentials such as air and water&lt;br&gt;-nature evolved over eons into a finely tuned system that supplies the essentials and makes the planet habitable for humans&lt;br&gt;-humans are affecting the balance of those systems&lt;br&gt;-current trends of resource use and population growth are not sustainable&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is obvious that changes must be made. I agree with earlier comments that the people have the power and small changes can make a difference. Many of us have already taken the steps we can. But others will not without more incentive. A cultural shift is a great thing, and certainly needed, but EXTREMELY slow without major crises. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The financial incentive is already there for many measures, such as weatherization, because it pays for itself in a short time. Yet even with that incentive many still are unwilling or unable to take those small steps. For that reason we do need legislation to level the playing field, show true costs of the various options, and provide added incentives. I know getting good legislation is extremely challenging, but it can dramatically speed up the necessary changes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And many of the changes being suggested to slow down climate change (waste reduction, efficient resource use, cleaner energy) have many positives and just make good sense, even if climate change isn&#039;t happening. If it is, I just don&#039;t want my kids or grandkids to witness the results of dramatic climate change (collapse of natural and cultural systems, mass human migration and starvation) and have them know we had very clear signals and selfishly did not respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not going to get into the global warming facts because everyone seems so sensitive and hard line about that. But here are some indisputable facts to consider: <br />-we do live on a finite planet, with finite resources, including essentials such as air and water<br />-nature evolved over eons into a finely tuned system that supplies the essentials and makes the planet habitable for humans<br />-humans are affecting the balance of those systems<br />-current trends of resource use and population growth are not sustainable</p>
<p>So it is obvious that changes must be made. I agree with earlier comments that the people have the power and small changes can make a difference. Many of us have already taken the steps we can. But others will not without more incentive. A cultural shift is a great thing, and certainly needed, but EXTREMELY slow without major crises. </p>
<p>The financial incentive is already there for many measures, such as weatherization, because it pays for itself in a short time. Yet even with that incentive many still are unwilling or unable to take those small steps. For that reason we do need legislation to level the playing field, show true costs of the various options, and provide added incentives. I know getting good legislation is extremely challenging, but it can dramatically speed up the necessary changes. </p>
<p>And many of the changes being suggested to slow down climate change (waste reduction, efficient resource use, cleaner energy) have many positives and just make good sense, even if climate change isn&#39;t happening. If it is, I just don&#39;t want my kids or grandkids to witness the results of dramatic climate change (collapse of natural and cultural systems, mass human migration and starvation) and have them know we had very clear signals and selfishly did not respond.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stormbringer</title>
		<link>http://artofgreatthings.com/2009/10/footprints-imagination-and-the-art-of-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://artofgreatthings.com/?p=1258#comment-462</guid>
		<description>My comment was a reply to Matt. For some reason, it does not appear in the correct position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was a reply to Matt. For some reason, it does not appear in the correct position.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
